The TRUTH about Buying a CATAMARAN. Don't be LIED TO..

  • Publicado el 15 oct 2020
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Comentarios • 2 975

  • Sailing Ruby Rose
    Sailing Ruby Rose Hace un año +299

    Welp, at least we're not the only ones pissing off the big production cat manufacturers 😂 Great video Riley, I think we feel exactly the same way. If we ever find ourselves in the same anchorage, will be great to have a beer and chat about all this in person. Cheers- Nick & Terysa

    • scott neeDHAM
      scott neeDHAM Hace 5 meses

      @Pearly Shells bahahahaha...stop it : i'm dying.... kkkkkkk

    • HL R
      HL R Hace un año

      I love these simple minded haters taking shots at Nick & Teresa. If they had the institutional knowledge, coupled the appropriate funding, not one would ever turn away a first rate vessel the likes of Ruby Rose II. Jealous much people?

    • Bro. DJ - The Wednesday Word
      Bro. DJ - The Wednesday Word Hace un año

      @Rick Emmet Kudos bruh...

    • Rick Emmet
      Rick Emmet Hace un año +1

      @D J Hey DJ, I too first sailed in Mission Bay, we're fellow alumni!

    • Rick Emmet
      Rick Emmet Hace un año

      Hi Nick and Terysa, I too wondered about the choice of a cat without daggerboards, and in the interviews Nick did with Antoine he did say that a cat with a keel fin will not point as high - 5 to 15 degrees farther off the wind. But the boat will sail much faster than the monohull and you may have plans for you cruising destinations that work with the choice. It is possible to sail around the globe down wind most of the time. Maybe you guys can go into this in a future episode. Cheers!

  • Aeroyacht
    Aeroyacht Hace un año +216

    Great job Riley. You opened sailors minds with honesty and transparency. Thanks also for sharing the info from my book “CATAMARANS , The Complete Guide for Cruising Sailors”. The book is in its 3rd edition and its humbling to see how many people seem to have benefited from its content. As important as the right boat is - I have found that timing and being with the right crew is almost more crucial. A final message to all: “Just go out there and do it ..and don’t wait until you have saved it all that ‘tomorrow’ may never come”. - Gregor Tarjan, Aeroyacht.

    • Harry
      Harry Hace un mes +1

      Thanks for writing the book! I have it here to prepare for our "living aboard a cat" plans! Has been a pleasure to read so far!

  • Roz Ware
    Roz Ware Hace un año +741

    I love how I don’t have a boat, or any idea how to sail and I’m still watching this 😂

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      Chris Maher Music Hace 16 días


    • Lisa Leever
      Lisa Leever Hace un mes

      Same…it is a bucket list none the less; been watching for 3-4 years but hope to make it a reality after caregiving duties are complete w/ my dad who flew for the Navy. Love boats and aviation. Go figure. Happy sails, I mean happy trails! ☺️

    • HVAC Mike
      HVAC Mike Hace 2 meses

      My thoughts as well

    • Mfundo Gxara
      Mfundo Gxara Hace 3 meses


    • Flying Monkey
      Flying Monkey Hace 5 meses

      I don't have a boat or a clue how to sail but damn I know I'm going to love it!

  • Doren Voeth
    Doren Voeth Hace 11 meses +96

    Well, thank you. A breath of fresh air. I tripped across this video and after a life time of sailing and instructing early, being a dealer, working for factories, living aboard for 14 years, being a multi-hull ferry developer in the U.S., on marine safety boards w/ the USCG, as advisory board member on marine studies and now doing business development planning for large maritime projects. Thanks. This is what I've been discussing for years.
    The mission defines the boat at point of purchase.
    Catamaran sailboats don't point well. There are other benefits.
    You probably don't know 10% of what you need to know to be safe.
    You need to know all the systems and how to fix stuff.
    Every time I've sailed on someone else's boat I've asked if they practice man-overboard and if their wife could do it if it was them that was overboard. The answer was....not one.
    Most sailors do not even know an absolutely reliable way to do it regardless of conditions or point of sailing.
    Most sailors are not proficient at reefing especially in parts of the world where winds are more consistently lighter.
    Most, in fact, who've been sailing for years do not how to tie up their boat properly or anchor in a safe way, thoroughly understanding the forces at work. Most don't jibe safely.
    Please do more of these and focus on specific smaller subjects like what happens if something breaks when cruising offshore. Rig, electronics, engine, consumables, damage to hull underway, fatigue, injury, and all the things that the family at the boat show or broker didn't think about.
    Thanks again.

    • Harry
      Harry Hace un mes

      Would love to read / hear more about your experiences and thoughts. I think it is hard to come by someone that has a more broad and diverse perspective to the topic than you.

    • jordillo777
      jordillo777 Hace 2 meses +2

      This sounds interesting. Would you consider doing a series of videos yourself, just explaining things to the camera, maybe doodle on a whiteboard?

    • Egor TheOne
      Egor TheOne Hace 6 meses +1

      Great advice.

  • Kristopher Le
    Kristopher Le Hace 7 meses +9

    So grateful for this video. My wife and I are looking for a live aboard and we were initially looking for a more comfy option. Watching a bunch of sailing videos my gut was telling me we should be looking at something that’s designed to sail first…with comfort built around that. This video helps solidify my feelings and will steer us in a better direction.

  • Nick
    Nick Hace un año +636

    It's funny. My wife's the sailor and I'm usually the one asking about AC and creature comforts. We've gone to a few boat shows and it does throw the salesmen for a twist when she's asking on about performance, and I'm just wandering around thinking more about where's best for the kids to jump off the deck. She has a rule - if the salesman starts talking to her about colours and what's her favourite, she walks off.

    • black mamba
      black mamba Hace 2 meses

      @NapFloridian Thats why nobody understands me!!!!! Eeeeever!!!!!!! No thoughts to possible benefits next day according to last s day decision.. Nothing from nothing leading to nothing and vice versa......

    • iducatifan1
      iducatifan1 Hace 6 meses

      @NapFloridian yupp they love GMC trucks. With the three letters.

    • Susan Bennett
      Susan Bennett Hace un año

      Good for her.

    • Popeye
      Popeye Hace un año

      @Chris Pomfret and an absolute mytho in the lower 20s.

    • Chris Pomfret
      Chris Pomfret Hace un año +3

      @Popeye Want my credentials? Sure: I’ve owned many boats, my family has always owned boats, I grew up living on the water, I’m an ex sailmaker, ex professional racing sailor, co managed a yacht manufacturing business & was heavily involved in sales & marketing for two yacht manufacturers. I’ve won world, national championships & the Admirals Cup. I’ve designed boats & built them too. But hey I’m just a punter.

  • tootsierollgang
    tootsierollgang Hace un año +46

    I’ve binged about 16 hours of sailing content recently and I must say this is the best video I’ve come across

  • Nick Kurtz
    Nick Kurtz Hace un año +3

    Thanks Riley. I am getting going in bareboat chartering and love the analysis and perspective you provide. Do keep on sharing your opinions! Love you guys.

  • Emily Ca-Ke
    Emily Ca-Ke Hace un año +3

    Hi Riley, really enjoyed this video! There are some of us girls out there looking to be the ones to sail and ask all the technical questions and it's so helpful to get an honest opinion now and then. Looking forward to the next one!

  • Arch Tx
    Arch Tx Hace un año +1

    I've owned monohulls most of my life, but in my elder years I am considering a monohull. I really appreciate your insights!

  • Useless Knowledge
    Useless Knowledge Hace un año +1

    Mutch appreciation to you and the other sailors/saling families has well as the adventures for sharing your experiences.

  • Andre Olivier
    Andre Olivier Hace 9 meses +1

    Awesome, realistic, unbiased and simplified guidance. Thank you Riley. This is exactly what we need to hear.
    Keep up the good work. Enjoy your vids.

  • Carl Newton
    Carl Newton Hace un año +1

    A great video Riley.
    I was talking to my brother about it “Darren Newton” who is Co owner and designer of Dazcat in the UK. He was impressed with your comments and how as a designer for him to find that sweet spot of weight, performance, comfort and cost is very difficult and subjective especially if you want to put the boat into production.
    You may know Dazcat’s are principally sports cruisers so lean more to racing and performance cruising with all the requirements and comfort for the family. I know over the past year they have been discussing exactly what you have been saying, but one of the main issues they have to make a yacht design a reality is the lack of information from people who live the life, just like yourself and your family, so what you are doing will be a great help to the industry and future boat owners.👍
    I know “Daz” Darren would love to talk to you about this subject and possibly help, so please feel free to contact him via the company website...
    Keep up the good work...

  • Johan van Tonder
    Johan van Tonder Hace un año +4

    Great video mate!!!! We inexperienced lot, planning to go sailing one day, need to hear this type of message. It is dangerous to go out there sailing on something a sales person sold, purely to get the commission. It's good to know the sailing community does stand up for the newbies.

  • Leonhard Euler
    Leonhard Euler Hace un año +268

    I'm not a sailor but I will more than happily listen to someone talk about something that they have well-researched and are passionate about and I found this really interesting. I like they SLV are crowd sourced and so are one of only a few with a platform in this area who are able to point out where the systems aren't working. Great video

    • Brent Johnson
      Brent Johnson Hace un año

      Preach...Riley...I/we enjoy that you have created a platform for the people by the people informative ..I may not ever buy a cat but at least my dreams will be well to watch you flex your celebrity status...always using your powers for good...keep it all up!!

    • Leonhard Euler
      Leonhard Euler Hace un año +7

      @Thunder Chicken Wholesome is the word I think of too. Once (or twice) a week I just forget everything, get comfortable and see what Lenny's been up to. :)

    • Thunder Chicken
      Thunder Chicken Hace un año +10

      I'm not a sailor either and just love to surf, but watching SLV all these years is my fav wholesome series that makes you feel good. No agendas or a lot fo negative content just these 3 Aussies learning to navigate their way around the planet. They've learned so much over the past 5 or 6 years and that's totally interesting...such a chill show with great vibes.

  • Laura Strange
    Laura Strange Hace un año +1

    This was a great video! Thanks so much for sharing. I’m not a sailor (but I hope to be one day) and this was great advice to me and I will definitely be doing some more reading and research:)

  • Stuart Goble
    Stuart Goble Hace un año

    Great vid Riley, only just got to catching up on your feeds. I think a lot of peeps are trying to be closet racers but want comfort. Having done a lot of deep ocean racing, I can confirm it's really hard and very uncomfortable, so never a simple compromise. There's also the question of understanding AND excepting peoples, skill levels in heavy seas and your point about reefing is well made. I've sailed with a ton of people who've considered me a total chicken for putting a reef in in what they considered light winds and have tried (and failed) to sail in an overpowered boat.
    Looking forward to part 2...

  • Isaac
    Isaac Hace un año

    Even for someone with no desire to test the oceans power lol, this was still good to see because it just goes to prove that NOTHING is ever as simple as it might look...while sailing NEVER looked easy to me.

  • mike arg
    mike arg Hace un año +1

    The value of information that comes from a person that completely loves his sailing and set out to live it, is priceless. Good job................Michael

  • TheSwamppilot
    TheSwamppilot Hace un año +239

    Riley, the world is starving for truth, transparency, honest opinions, and to hear and be heard. We are flooded with information streams; virtually all of which are manipulated for selfish gain, or political agendas, Thank you for your integrity and courage.

    • Mick No name
      Mick No name Hace un año +3

      Agreed 👍 It’s refreshing to see someone provide solid information that is clearly aimed at setting folks in the right direction.

    • Always Uknown
      Always Uknown Hace un año +4

      @gem-mint-cards. com I’ll admit, my ignorance kept that in the dark for me for awhile. The evil that lies among us including the corruption is overwhelming

    • gem-mint-cards. com
      gem-mint-cards. com Hace un año +2

      humans are selfish. you just figuring that out?

    • Robert Benton
      Robert Benton Hace un año +5

      well said. thanks Riley.

  • shelbygtsoo
    shelbygtsoo Hace un mes +1

    I use to enjoy sailing hobby catamarans on single hull and trying to keep going as much as I can...that was 30 years ago and I always dream of doing it again

  • Marc Fox
    Marc Fox Hace un año

    Super video. Interesting to balance your (good) advice with: "go small, go simple, go now". I think what both have in common: don't count the fridges....count the Bruce number! I learned something today. Thanks

  • Jerry Smith
    Jerry Smith Hace un año +2

    This was an interesting and informative video. A part of me would like to have a mono hull. But the stability and large bridge deck is hard to overlook. The only con that would bother me is the continuous water slapping under the bridge deck.
    Thank you for the insight.

  • Gladtobemom
    Gladtobemom Hace un año +8

    Absolutely excellent points.
    I've watched my dad buy boats. He always looks for a strong boat, strong rigging, repairable everything. He wants to be able to get to the inside of the hull everywhere in the boat, he wants to be able to get to every system in the boat. I've seen him change out every hose clamp on the boat because they were all different . . . he made them all the same and put a bag of extras in his parts bin. Galleys can be modified, a portable freezer can go in, it's more important to have good access to your sail and fender lockers, to have good solid storage for your tender, to have a high quality anchor and chain.
    Safety, reliability, and repairability first. All the other stuff comes after.
    That said, I want to add another thing . . . I agree with Riley, so does my dad. You've got to be able to sail . . . a stodgy boat would never be even considered.

  • Azzyness
    Azzyness Hace un año +2

    Thanks Riley! This video has really made me think about things I really didn't consider before, never thought of performance as something all that important until you pointed out that if you can go faster you can get out of the way of bad weather faster. Very good point and is something I'll keep in mind for future boat hunting. Also, in this video you still seem a bit nervous giving out advice - it's adorable, especially considering you've more than earnt your stripes!

  • Sunbrite Softwash Pa
    Sunbrite Softwash Pa Hace un año +1

    Thanks for the great info. We have always owned powerboats and getting older (Kids Grown etc) and would really like to learn to sail and take a trip of a life time. Thanks for the info

  • April Coursey
    April Coursey Hace un año +1

    Amazing job, Riley! I still love watching you after almost 8 yrs.

  • Rosie Woods
    Rosie Woods Hace un año

    this was super useful! my boyfriend and I have bought our first boat, an old Nicholson, pretty minimal but fingers crossed its quick and safe! Plan is to sail from the uk to the med next year, kick around and have some fun before maybe thinking about upgrading! will definitely be browsing the second hand catamaran market. thank you so much for what you guys do, always keeping me motivated to create a life as fulfilling as I think your guys life is! xx

  • Tom Fraser-Ivens
    Tom Fraser-Ivens Hace un año +130

    From one reforming buffoon to another: Don't ever forget how much you've achieved and how much new wisdom you have - well done so far mate keep it up!

  • Lindy Butler
    Lindy Butler Hace un año +1

    Awesome video, thanks so much for leaning into an uncomfortable area to benefit the sailing community. I’m a new sailor and boat owner and this video gets me fired up to go catch some wind :)

  • Ty Webb
    Ty Webb Hace un año +1

    I need to admit, I would love to sail the blue water but my spouse has no interest at all, she is totally out. That being said I am totally invested in your adventure. I am an aviation guy myself but love your videos. I have learned many things from you and will watch forever. I think your desire to learn, and be a better sailor, is what attracts me
    and now having been a Dad I am enjoying your adventures with Lenny. Continue to learn, continue to share what you have learned, and be safe. Maybe I can fly over you the next time you are in the Bahamas.

  • Jayne Root
    Jayne Root Hace un año +1

    Much happiness to you all! Growing another sweet babe- congratulations! Would love to see a sweet baby hammock hanging up for the wee little one.

  • EV Creations
    EV Creations Hace un año

    Thank you very much for the words of wisdom. You're absolutely right, I haven't lived on board a vessel in over 30 years when I was in the US Navy. So much has changed and my priority so far in looking at potential vessels to purchase so my wife and I can cruise SE Asia and beyond has been all about comfort. Speed, performance in rough seas or the Bruce Number have been a consideration. I thought I had the complete list of the things I had to have. Now I have to start over with that list of must haves... Thanks a lot! Seriously, you might have saved our lives.

  • Mark Van
    Mark Van Hace un año

    Wow, great video discussing balance between safety, performance and comfort. Anyone considering off-shore boat purchase should watch. Thanks Riley!

  • Rick Emmet
    Rick Emmet Hace un año +5

    Riley, you legend! You're having a larger impact than you can even imagine. Other than actually sailing multihulls, my introduction to multihull design, engineering, performance and seamanship came from Chris White's book "The Cruising Multihull". I have re-read that book so many times, the pages are literally falling out of the book. You recommended "Catamarans: The Complete Guide for Cruising Sailors" and I thought that I should buy it, as material science has changed so much, it will be good to have more current info. I went online and ordered the book used at a price of almost $35.00 US, plus shipping, etc. I waited till today to receive the book, but was just notified that the order was cancelled. I go online again to fine the book, and now it's about double the price - USED. You've caused a run on that book! I wonder how many people are presently shaking their fists and yelling, "Damn you, Whitelum!" Oh well, at least you're getting people to READ, which is no mean feat! Cheers!

  • Charlene Davis
    Charlene Davis Hace un año

    Loved the video. Wish I’d seen it in 2009 when we purchased a 36’ PDQ. we spent six years living aboard sailing in the Caribbean but when we bought it I didn’t know the difference between a catamaran and a canoe. Seen the ocean once before we moved aboard.

  • Sean CRONIN
    Sean CRONIN Hace un año +23

    I’m 16 and every single video of your channel I watch makes me wanna buy a sail boat one day. I only get to sail with my uncle in the summer months and use to sail with my grandpa in his maldives 32 and those are the best times. Hope I can get a nice catamaran one day !

  • Chris Pomfret
    Chris Pomfret Hace un año +41

    This is great advice. Trust me I have sailed professionally, am an ex sailmaker, have won some serious regattas, sailed dinghies and yachts, managed race boats, raced 18’ skiffs and have even sold yachts. Riley is spot on here. (I’ve watched you mature , in particular the crossing with Greta I saw you then become a good yachtie) The idea of bridging the high performance gap in the cruising world is legitimately the way forward. Talking polars is just as important for a cruising sailor as it is a racing sailor. People forget the slower you go the more load is on EVERYTHING. Don’t forget it’s the same patch of water so sailing an easy to sail boat with a chassis built around performance is better than a chassis built around the interior. Why? The wind and waves are the same. The speed of weather is the same. The more cruising equipment you carry the slower you will go and the more cumbersome it will be with every action so chose lighter each time. Racing people want things to work so use that knowledge and benefit from their trials. They are the better sailors dont forget. The harder things are, the slower you go, the more dangerous positions you will put yourself in. Cruisers get stuck in a mentality particularly when estimating strengths required. Every time you repair a fitting, chose a rope, cleat or sail cloth type cruisers usually over build. Stop it. Stop saying ‘if your cruising it doesn’t matter how slow you are because you have time’. grrrrr No! This adds up to more cost, heavier to lift things on your own, harder to sail short handed, poor quality materials, bigger anchors, etc, etc, etc. Riley has nailed this advice. The sweet spot is not averaging 18 to 25 knots which is fast it’s probably 12 to 15 but most boats are so damn slow they only do 6 or 7. That’s dangerous. Also, if you are new then help yourself out buy the boat that will help you sail better rather than the cheap production charter boat built around price so is a pig to sail. Sadly the industry is known at entry level for the sales guy that will sell you a cheap Benateau with he shallow draft cruising keel with no stability which then needs a smaller mast but has a bulky bubble pregnant hull shape built around the interior or catamaran equivalent. You’ll hate the performance then spend dearly replacing and upgrading fittings. Rather than enjoy the sailing early you’ll be frustrated or stunted in your learning. Perhaps you’ll teach yourself bad habits from your bad equipment too. Don’t forget you will spend most of your time on deck. The hierarchy should always have performance before price, then storage, then looks, etc. So good on Riley for rattling the production yachts cages.

  • Doppelrock
    Doppelrock  Hace un año

    Hey I really appreciate you guys making this video! Business models and sales flow could use a check in our society, it’s great to see you monetizing in new ways that pretty clearly allows you to convey a clear message to your community. Speaking to parameters that really matter is critical and should not be taboo. Are used to sell motorcycles and a lot of people would come in looking for a BiPosto or a 911, But after talking through just the basics of what 99% of the experience is going to be like did people really start to think about how their decision to engage with this equipment would affect their daily lives. I’m a fan of this kind of content, please keep it up, you guys rock, and happy sailing!

  • Christopher Howard
    Christopher Howard Hace un año +3

    As I consider sailing to world with my 4 children, one being younger than 5... This is very good information as I've begun learning and finding honest sailing channels... So thank you and we love what we see

  • Tim Williams
    Tim Williams Hace un año +28

    Thanks for sharing this, it is very thought provoking. One point to remember is that not every boat owner is a liveaboard cruiser, with a ESclips channel, crosses oceans and has a $750,000 budget. Many of us have to work for a living, are only able to cruise for a few weeks every year and mostly just spend weekends sailing local waters such as Moreton Bay. We can and do avoid 40kt winds and 6m waves. We count the hours spent on the water, not the miles travelled in 24hrs. Everyone has a different situation with different requirements which probably explains why there are so many different boats out there. There is no such thing as a perfect boat, the best you can hope for is to find a boat that is close to perfect for you.

    • Tim Williams
      Tim Williams Hace 4 meses

      @Corgi Mamma Hahaha. Perhaps I should have said "many of us have to work for a living ON LAND"

    • Corgi Mamma
      Corgi Mamma Hace 4 meses

      "Many of us have to work for a living" OUCH 🐠

  • ria
    ria Hace un año

    Awesome video!! I am one of those women looking for a minimalist vessel!! Since watching your guys channel the past year or so, you’ve truly inspired me to save up and in the next few years buy a sailboat. I actually have had a hard time deciding on a monohull or catamaran. I love the style and comfortability of the catamaran, but some type of pride in me tells me i need to learn on a monohull before I can live in luxury lol. Any tips on that would be amazing!

  • Michael Gelpi
    Michael Gelpi Hace un año +20

    Excellent arguments for the superiority of cats Riley!!
    I’ve been convinced of this for several decades, but I still own a monohull. The problem is simply cost. Catamarans are not just a little more costly they are massively more costly to purchase. The vast majority of people will only ever be able to purchase a used boat, and then probably within a max price range that is multiple times less than what you can buy a ocean cruising catamaran. This drives people who really want a used catamaran (forget new, out of the question for most all) but can’t afford one, to look at the low budget designs I think are marginally suitable at best for ocean sailing.
    Maybe you can do a Part 2 of this topic focused on “now that you decided to buy a catamaran, here is the spectrum of options and relative cost”.
    Anyway, great video, very practical and useful...and brave to take this one on. By the way, really cool animations.

  • Freedom Trail America
    Freedom Trail America Hace un año

    Thank you for stepping up and doing the right thing in educating toward safety. Bravo!!

  • Richard Macys CISSP 'KO4WWW'

    A wealth of knowledge from Riley! Thanks Riley! Definitely what a lot of people are always searching for. Hope you guys are doing well. Cheers!

  • JWG
    JWG Hace un año

    Found y’all several years ago. Love your videos. I’m a 57 yr old gent who has aspirations of sailing! Now I was a seismic engineer and have sailed around the world, on motor vessels! I am single, will live aboard and will begin sailing the Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean until my confidence grows to a point that I’ll feel ready to do a crossing!? My question is that I’m quite interested in a production boat, Hunter 41 ds or 410. Am I crazy for wanting the comfort while from what I see, giving up little in performance?! Thanks

  • Masus04
    Masus04 Hace un año

    Love your vids and I generally agree with what you say. However, you're comparing your expensive, performance optimized cat to an older, cheaper, charter/ less performant monohull which is slightly biased 😉
    I'd love to hear your perspective on a similarly decked out mono like an X yacht or a pogo.

  • Oscar Perry
    Oscar Perry Hace un año +25

    As an industrial designer who sits in front of a computer in CAD all day but knows nothing about sailing this is unbelievably fascinating and interesting. It all makes so much sense and makes me want to get into this world immediately.

  • Billy Stuckey
    Billy Stuckey Hace 8 meses +1

    We have recently found this lifestyle and I've become somewhat obsessed with making this lifestyle reality. Thanks for the info!

  • Richard Dyer
    Richard Dyer Hace un año

    Excellent video, Riley! I’ll share this with my brother who plans to build a catamaran. I prefer the monohull.

  • Gerhard Kutt
    Gerhard Kutt Hace un año

    Having been involved with foiling multihulls (power) since 2002, I am moving onto Trimarans. (Started in monohulls from waterskiing days in the early 1960's) I have not sailed much, but have raced on 1/4 tons and know my way around sail boats. I design and build foiling multihull hybrids ... and think that we will eventually arrive at properly designed Trimarans being the next step up from Cats. There aren't a lot of Trimarans yet, most are not optimal because there is just not enough experience with them yet. With Trimarans, I am not talking about a monohull supported by two sponsons, I am talking about a trihull, properly designed and proportioned - i.e. with a longer center hull and narrower side hulls combined with the space that a cat provides but more ...
    I hope you guys get some experience with Trimarans eventually. Great fantastic video. Really informative for people considering multihulls. Cats can be great, but are limiting in many ways except space - WOW - on the space ... I don't want to be a downer on cats ... but people who own cats I know would consider Trimarans as the next move. I could get into the technical advantages, but better stop here.

  • Melinda Lara
    Melinda Lara Hace un año

    Great video, all your work is good and appreciated more than you know. I live vicariously through you guys sailing the world would be impossible for me at my age. You are the best Captain! So many things that I just love about you. Your little tests at the end of voyages is the best and entertaining to say the least. I have watched you guys grow and learn. Elena's videos are of great quality and you can really see the dedication to home and work. You mentioned someone shared your video's thru Facebook...I am guilty and was just trying to help your channel get the recognition it deserves and of course the support as well. I'm sorry I thought I was being helpful. You guys were trying to get to one million subscribers. I'm poor so this was the only way I could help. Dedicated fan Thank you again for all the sailing fun and now informative sailing info. You guys are great parents for Lenny. Go Sailing La Vagabonde

  • Doris Danielsen
    Doris Danielsen Hace un año +10

    Right on Riley! We can handle the truth, and this was incredibly helpful.

  • Live The Dream Adventure Team

    Great video. Riley is correct. A boat has to sail well. This is gives margin of safety and an element of enjoyment that is required for blue water sailing. Keep up the great work Riley. Hope to bump into you at an anchorage soon.

  • Max Ryan
    Max Ryan Hace un año

    Good on you Riley. I hope to meet you, Elayna, and Lenny someday. You are a truly inspirational couple. You inspired me more than I could ever fit in a comment. Take care and much love...

  • Randy Shoemaker
    Randy Shoemaker Hace un año

    Riley this was a fantastic video, change of pace, but well worth all the effort you guys put into it. It is what people need to hear from someone who has been there. I have loved you guys' journey from the start and can't wait to see more of these. ATB

  • Surface Interval Live
    Surface Interval Live Hace un año

    Thank you so so much for this info!!! I'm "a lady" diver who has had dreams of mini documentaries regarding marine conservation and rehabilitation. I've been seriously looking at Catamarans but have felt overwhelmed. This is so helpful! Any extra advice is GREATLY appreciated!!! Thank you, thank you!

  • Jared Clark
    Jared Clark Hace un año +36

    As someone who doesn’t know anything technical about sailing but loves to learn, I would definitely support more of these videos. Riley, you don’t have to be the world’s smartest person to be able to share knowledge with others. Just share what you know, and share how your view might be biased (which you’ve done an excellent job with in this video).

  • Lucian hargesheimer
    Lucian hargesheimer Hace un año

    This is a great video, Riley. I don't have a huge amount of experience in ocean crossing but did a bit of costal cruising on the south and east coast of Australia mostly by my self or with one inexperienced crew and I feel like boats that are performing better are simpler to sail (and I am not talking about a dedicated race yacht ) as it seems like it is built with the sailing performance in mined and everything in terms of comfort and space is build to fit in or complement the sailing ability.
    More videos like this would be great!

  • Evan Rhodes
    Evan Rhodes Hace 9 meses

    Great video brother. I have been looking at a lot of boats lately and recently settled on catamarans for their space and performance. That being said, there are a ton of choices, and my price point, like you said early in the video is way below the $750,000 mark so I will be buying a used, probably chartered cat.
    I'll be following you from today in hopes of finding the right vessel.
    Definitely getting the book too.

  • M FB
    M FB Hace un año

    Thanks Riley. We are at the contemplation stage of buying and loved your vid. Thinking about a splash of blue water sailing after we semi - retire. Sail a small 3.5 tonne fixed keel around the Gulf (SA) and chartered a Seawind 1250 catamaran in the Whitsundays to try sailing a multihull for the first time. Loved it. The boat sailed well and is more down the performance end than houseboat, but is very different to a mono. Your comments and wisdom (yes, you are entitled to dish out opinions based on your enviable experience!) really made sense.
    Hope you both find a solution to the COVID/childbirth dilemma. SA is such a haven, its a pity you are stalled making it back. Lenny makes us laugh. M

  • Jeff Turner
    Jeff Turner Hace un año

    Wow, best video ever for newbies! Thank you THANK YOU for telling it like it is. You are a truly an ambassador for the all levels. You are setting the example that while sailing is dangerous, it can be calculated and safely navigated. Expensive but also rewarding. Its a BALANCE, and you make achieving that balance do-able, enjoyable and from what I got... thats the KEY! 🙏🏼👍🏻⛵😎

  • Sailing White Clouds
    Sailing White Clouds Hace un año +35

    We are a family of 4 G7 B3 and have been living onboard a Prout 33 foot catamaran for a year and a half. The boat cost us £31,000 and we have Travelled from the UK to the Channel islands, up the Seine to Paris and down the French canal system to Mediterranean. We then day sailed all the way from the south of France to Portugal travelling an average of 6 hours per day with time to swim and explore along the way. We have had an amazing adventure and are now in Portugal working out how to upgrade to an ocean going vessel so now Rileys opinions become more relevant to us. These youtube channels have been a great inspiration to us but the most important thing was that we worked out a way to make our adventure happen and we set off. To anyone considering this lifestyle just find a way to make it happen and take that leap of faith. You won't regret it.

    • Englishman inFrance
      Englishman inFrance Hace un año +2

      @peter Stevens Colin was very clear that the damage was caused BEFORE the hurricane .

    • peter Stevens
      peter Stevens Hace un año +4

      @Englishman inFrance not that I am a laggon fan, but Colin’s boat is a recovered hurricane damged vessel. Not sure it is fair to imply that hulls breaking away from the bulkhead is a frequent risk for a heavier catamaran.

    • Englishman inFrance
      Englishman inFrance Hace un año +5

      Sailing Ruby Rose have also been on the same case as Riley . Experienced sailors they eventually settled on a Seawind as their new boat. Fast but comfortable . MJ Sailing have also been looking at Seawind . The South African guy Riley spoke about with the Lagoon has been sailing all his life in rough South African waters (which can get pretty frisky) and really knows what he is doing , so is not worried to have a slower heavier boat . Heavy, as Riley said , can be good in bad weather . But Colin , an ex superyacht engineer , bought an ex-charter Lagoon 45 , and is now having a nightmare as one of the hulls is trying to break away from the bulkheads !

  • Mark Roman
    Mark Roman Hace un año

    Thanks for such great information. My wife and I are beginning our search for our floating home and this is great stuff to know. I will definitely read the book and look into the other resources you suggested. Thanks again!

  • Elizabeth Ludden
    Elizabeth Ludden Hace un año

    Super helpful video. I've been intimidated by the whole idea of trying to avoid shark salesmen and find a truly safe boat. Will keep doing my research.

  • Sergio Persi
    Sergio Persi Hace un año

    I liked the video very much as it helped me understanding the vastity of what I don't know yet without making feel bad about it. Also I liked the enphase on safety versus a kings size beds and a flat screen...I have been contemplating monohull versus catamaran for a long time, recently I started turning to catamaran but I am now shifting toward multihulls. This video made me understand why, so thank you. I have very little experience now but hopefully one day I will be experienced, capable, and confident enough to fulfill the childhood dream of sailing around the world safely. I will keep following your channel and keep on learning. Thanks mate.

  • David Beaumont
    David Beaumont Hace un año +7

    Thanks Riley for the candour! For me and my partner its a balance between comforts and safety/performance - I guess we all decide trying to get that balance. I like cats because for me they strike that balance that I and my partner are looking for - creature comforts, stable at anchor, faster through the water to make more of the daylight.

  • Kamin
    Kamin Hace un año

    Thanks for sharing! I am just a newbie who's eyes have just recently been opened to the possibility and excitement of sailing. Not sure where this will eventually lead to but thanks for the info!

  • Bud Blanchard
    Bud Blanchard Hace un año

    Awesome and thanks, Riley. That gives me a few more pondering points to consider as well as reading to do. I’m glad I’m following your family and hearing this kind of advice in my quest to follow suit and find myself on the water.


    Thanks, never considered most of this information. I’m hoping to get my first sail boat in the next 2 years.

  • Neil Quigley
    Neil Quigley Hace un año

    I very much liked the perspective the video brought to the subject. But, I'm convinced that the cost of buying and maintaining a catamaran is the bar that buyers can't get over, rather than any (largely misplaced) safety/stability concerns. A couple shopping for their first bluewater-ready cruising boat in any particular budget range will find many many more suitable monohulls than truly equivalent catamarans (number/types of berths, storage for water/fuel/food/sails). While many of us would love the enormous convenience of the cockpit and main living area being on the same level, having more real estate for mounting solar panels, and the redundancy of two motors and rudders, comparable catamarans seem to cost about twice that of their monohull comparators.

  • Laghlan Deyo
    Laghlan Deyo Hace un año +15

    You two ARE ROCKSTAR!! You guys sailed one of this centuries most important environmentalists SAFELY transatlantic through extremely rough seas! When Greta wins the Nobel prize, I am certain you two will be thanked!

  • Don Turner
    Don Turner Hace un año

    Thanks for the insights, Riley. I'm not a sailor. However, I believe that the metric that you struggled a bit with had to do with the friction that water exerts in the submerged hull creating drag. The surface area of the total amount of submerged hull would be an important component of the total drag exerted on the boat.

  • Blake Youwer
    Blake Youwer Hace un año +1

    Thank you for doing what you do and sharing your knowledge and experiences with all of us. I'm sure I'm not the only one living vicariously through you until my wife and I can get out on the water. Be safe out there. Much love from Wisconsin!

  • Gregory D'Amario
    Gregory D'Amario Hace 5 meses

    Fascinating! I really need to go back to the formulas and work them until I understand them. I would be really interested in your take/evaluation of trimarans, because if a catamaran can sail one ahead of or out of a weather problem, a trimaran could do it twice as fast. Although, some of the larger(est) and most expensive tris are just idiotic. Would love to hear your thoughts.

  • Chris Capps
    Chris Capps Hace 8 meses

    Hey mate, loved the video! Thank you for the time and care you put into it! Do you have a few recommendations of models that fit that less comfortable but safer sailing? Be great to have a place to start doing our research! Lots of love! Happy sailing!

  • trickdawg
    trickdawg Hace un año +11

    Absolutely love the story of trying to buy your first boat and the surveyor tells the yard to put the boat back into the water.... We need more people like him on the planet.

  • MacMac Media
    MacMac Media Hace un año

    This is bloody brilliant - love your passion - everything for the right reasons from the head and heart!

  • Skip Flem
    Skip Flem Hace un año

    THANKS! I helped deliver a MOORINGS Jeanneau 37' from Rhode Island to Treasure Quay in Feb.'93. First and
    last 'cat' delivery. We had 74 kt breezes one night, and was driving into 35' walls of water. Later that day stbd.
    wouldn't start since it was full of water via exhaust box. Besides a couple of squalls and the topping lift wrapping
    around the furled jib, the 1,000 mile trip was uneventful. Best part was the first class flight from Miami to Boston!

  • Ryder Storm
    Ryder Storm Hace un año

    Bloody love the honesty. Great work ,from great genuine Aussies. Well done

  • David Poole
    David Poole Hace un año

    Riley this is an awesome video. I'm planning to start cruising in a couple of years so boat choices are top of mind at the moment. I hear a great deal about the benefits of redundancy of systems onboard - water coolers, electrical systems etc etc. Obviously this adds weight but what redundancy should I be thinking about from a safety and comfort perspective?

  • Tula's Endless Summer
    Tula's Endless Summer Hace un año +429

    This is great Riley! Exactly what people need to hear and learn from. I know I need to brush up on some reading... Thanks so much for putting this out here!

    • Dhysk
      Dhysk Hace 7 meses

      @Juana Cardenas I found it very helpful. It's not really a how to but should serve as a guide to how to approach the question of what boat do I want.
      My issue is I'm new and have never sailed a cat.. I like how mono hulls talk to you. I can feel it power up over power and the like.

  • Jasmin Ghanem
    Jasmin Ghanem Hace un año

    Loved your video Riley! Its my dream to one day sail the world, you and Elayna are such inspirational people! The video was eye opening and you talked about some really interesting points, you should definitely do a video about what are the best catamarans out there today on the market that combine both performance and have comfortable living spaces for blue water sailing and for living permanently on the ocean. Love from Perth!

  • Players Dojo
    Players Dojo Hace un año +13

    Keep flexing please, we need more people like you telling the truth and educating all of us

  • CandD Hurndall
    CandD Hurndall Hace un año

    Really interesting video, thanks Riley! I wonder if you could clarify a little what you meant by the tension/trade off between comfort and safety. I totally get the trade off between comfort and performance (my husband and I went for performance over creature comforts when recently buying a second hand monohull, eek!) but wasn't totally clear what you were saying on comfort (e.g. king size bed and many fridges!) vs safety. V interested to hear more. Thanks!

  • Brad And Saskia Coley
    Brad And Saskia Coley Hace 6 meses

    Legend Riley. Thanks for sharing and putting the time and effort in to sharing something as important and welcomed as this. Cheers.

  • Richard G
    Richard G Hace un año +5

    I did own a few boats and indeed I ended up always helming. We finally bought an Outremer51 and when we took delivery in La Grande Motte, I refuse to helm the boat out of the slip. That was a bit of a surprise to my spouse. She looked at me and said fine (in a stressed kind of way) . She has been helming ever since and I am just a crew. I love it and yes she adjusts the sails and tell me when a reef is required etc. We end up probably sailing better and with a happier boat. We are now both concerns with keeping the boat light, not over canvassed. An over 200 miles day is a beautiful thing.

  • Chop Wood
    Chop Wood Hace un año +3

    Thanks mate. I've been following you guys for a few years. Unfortunately my Atlantic dreams are on hold. For those who are struggling, chin up... It gets better, you got this.

  • Casey Schorr
    Casey Schorr Hace 5 meses

    Great information. Confirming my preference for a Seawind cat!

  • Christina Means
    Christina Means Hace 8 meses

    Hi! Thank you for the video!! I'm just now getting into boating and it is wonderful to hear some better questions to ask.

  • T H
    T H Hace un año +1

    Interesting perspective and your point of view is something I hadn't considered. Your premise appears to be that 'blue water sailing' should give more consideration to the act of sailing and the performance metrics of the vessel while underway. One wonders if consumer data supports that position. Actual time spent 'sailing' versus time spent at destination (at anchor) presents some hard choices for a family. How important are speed and the thrill of performance to a 'family' over the long-run with dreams of 'years' traveling the world? How much of this 'alternative lifestyle' (for consumers) is about the act of sailing versus a life of travel and freedom (in relative comfort)? Perspective is a funny thing. Just a thought.

  • Peter Nicholson
    Peter Nicholson Hace un año +5

    Really good information, well presented. You have evolved into a fantastic communicator. These types of videos are so important to the future development of world sailing. Lifestyle videos are fun, entertaining and engaging, but many people really want the technical how to and why is it so videos as well. Cheers Peter

  • Bad Bees
    Bad Bees Hace un año

    This is great Riley! Exactly what people need to hear and learn from. I know I need to brush up on some reading... Thanks so much for putting this out here!

  • MrMoneyLaunder
    MrMoneyLaunder Hace un año

    Well done, just amazing honest information from someone not afraid to be real, so informative and valuable, best one ever, you have a big heart, thank you ...

  • Get in the Water
    Get in the Water Hace un año +11

    Sincerity at is finest. We need more of this on social media and youtube. Great video thanks.

  • Jillian
    Jillian Hace 8 meses

    Thank you so much for this video! I am super concerned with safety and speed primarily and this is great info!

  • Robert Loveless
    Robert Loveless Hace un año +23

    Riley, long time lurker here. Although it's the beautiful sailing lifestyle videos that got me following, it's largely your approach to reasoning and discussion that I've stayed for. Very glad you settled on putting out this video! Also you know it's gonna be a good'un when the Vaga crew put their acting shoes on for the intro 😂

    • Jack Miller
      Jack Miller Hace un año

      Youins know what, I reckon I’ll agree with ya. I mean Sheeut Far!

  • Terry Bullock
    Terry Bullock Hace 5 meses

    Hey guys, Cheers for having the balls to say what needed to be said! Love your channel, its a blast watching your adventures.... I will purchase the book, I have not been thinking multi hull but I will give it some thought, thanks again and wishing you the very best on your travels...... Peace Love Beer And Pizza....T-Bone

  • LandyAndy62
    LandyAndy62 Hace un año +3

    This is spot on Riley. You have experiences outside that of most your sofa-surfing viewers, and while the pretty islands and diving in blue waters are great entertainment and escapism for many, perhaps a small percentage of those viewers will be inspired enough to make the opportunity and actually take some steps towards a nautical lifestyle. This nuts and bolts of boats chat, sharing your thoughts and views, is perhaps not so viewable as other aspects of your channel, but it is very useful and appreciated.

  • Alexander Farmer
    Alexander Farmer Hace 8 meses

    Great video Riley and Elayna! Could you please do a video on what you would look for in a monohull, if you were buying your first boat again, with a similar budget you had at the time, and plans to cross oceans. It’s a real mine field picking speed vs strength, keel shape, production boat vs boutique, comfort rating ect….